What if it all turns out like this….then what?

I read somewhere about a guy who had just come back from the brink of death, that is, he had an out-of-body experience as they say (OBE).

Now I have a very keen interest in this, as so far, nobody who has died has been reliably able to contact any living people to tell them what happens “over on the other side”.

I have reached the stage where I am beginning to doubt what the religions say about what happens when we die.

I think most of what religion says is a form of sooth-saying, for want of a better word. In other words, it offers us the possibility of a better life, everlasting or not after we die. I suppose it’s the ultimate form of balm for bereaved souls.

But this guy I read about, he says that what he saw when he had technically died, has led him to his present conclusions.

What he says is this; whatever we believe in, is exactly what we will see when we die. In other words, if we believe in a heaven (providing we have been good boys and girls whilst on earth!), we will see a heaven where we will live forever.

If we believe in a hell (and have been naughty boys and girls), we will see hell and get a privileged seat forever there.

If we believe in a god who came to earth as Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha etc, that is what we will see. If we are christians, we will see Jesus, if muslims we will see Mohammed and so on.

And he also has mentioned one other thing that he saw quite clearly; each of us have our own place to go after death. A christian will not find himself in a place where Hindus have gathered nor will a muslim find himself where christians have their place etc. So whatever our beliefs whilst we are living, is exactly what will be manifested before us after death.

So to me….that sounds like a game! Maybe, as I have postulated before here…maybe that’s all there is to it! It’s just dependant upon what we think and what we retain in our little heads at the instant of death.

Another quick story that comes to mind here…it’s from the Sikh faith…and serves to illustrate what we are talking about here.

It relates the story of an old ascetic, a holy man, lying outside on his bed, under the shade of an apple tree. The man is dying and is on his last few breaths…when his eye spots an beautiful apple, so red and luscious, on the tree. At that very moment, the man wishes if he could taste the thing and savour the sweet flavour. Whilst thinking so, he takes his final breath and dies. Immediately, his soul reaches the “other side”, wherever that is…and he his given the chance to savour his apple….as he reincarnates as a maggot in that very same apple!

True or not, it shows you what I mean.

I leave you with another thought…what if…just before dying, we think there is nothing after death..just quiet..then what?

Will we be met by nothing more than total silence…forever? In which case, all those hymns we heard as children or adults were a waste of time?

What are we searching for?

This is blog about walking in the wilderness…

But you may be thinking why I keep posting stuff about metaphysical, mystical or religious stuff on here? I agree with you!

But I am so moved with the whole subject of our thoughts, belief, faith, life, death etc., that I have thought it better to use this space for both purposes, one to talk about what keeps us happy physically, ie enjoying the outdoors, and second to discuss things which do seem to bug a whole lot of people out there…why we are here, what we need to do whilst we are alive, etc.

Recently, I’ve been reading a couple of blogs written by one or two readers who seem to be pushing the views that what they believe in is the only way to salvation for the world. That is really, really bad. How can we stand up with a straight face and say to everyone with such compulsion, that there is only one way.

In that vein, I am posting a few words from Jalaluddin Rumi, whom many people have read about. I think you will agree that his words strike a chord, no matter how remote:

I tried to find Him on the Christian cross, but He was not there; I went to the Temple of the Hindus and to the old pagoda, but I could not find a trace of Him anywhere.

I searched the mountains and the valleys but neither in the heights nor in the depths was I able to find Him. I went to the Kaaba in Mecca, but He was not there either.

I questioned the scholars and philosophers, but He was beyond their understanding.

I then looked into my heart and it was there where He dwelled that I saw him; He was nowhere else to be found.

People think their god exists in churches, temples and mosques


A christian will say his church is the house of god…

A muslim will say his mosque is the house of god…

A Hindu will say his temple is the house of god…

A buddhist will say god doesn’t exist…

A Taoist will say there is no god, only Tao…

Who is right?

Who is wrong?

All the faiths say they preach Love…

And yet, it has been said, the first two faiths above, have together, exterminated over 500 million people since their inception, all in the name of who? God? Love? I don’t think so somehow.

The christians say we should live a life of love to all living things…so do the muslims…

The christian says when we die, we will be judged by what we have done, and then be sent to heaven or hell…

But who has seen that heaven or hell? The bible has been written, rewritten, revised and re-revised so many times, it is full of inaccuracies. There is not one person who can stand up in a crowd and say he has been to heaven or hell. So why do we preach something that may not even exist? It may exist, but only in the mind of the writer, nowhere else.

The muslim says that when we die, we will be raised from the dead by the founder of islam. And similar to the christian and jews, we will be judged and sent to the appropriate places according to your merits.

But how can a dead person be brought back to life? It is impossible physically.

The buddhist says there is no god…everything is an illusion. But if everything is an illusion, then how can we touch, feel or taste things? It doesn’t fit.

Some faiths say our aim is to bow down to god’s feet and we will be blessed forever. But then they say god has no form….so if he has no form, where do his feet come from then….?

Wouldn’t it be better if we all just lived our lives here by treating everyone as we would like to be treated ourselves? Help anyone who needs help. Live and let live.

Why do we have to believe in a religion?

“Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today…

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one”

John Lennon


PS no offence to any faith, religion or person…my own personal views entirely….with utmost respect to all.